Nån som vet när Yamaha T-Max 750 kommer?

[TMax500]

Vill minnas att TMax gjorde 0-90 på 6,9 sekunder när Teknikens Värld testade scootrar 2001. Vilket kan stämma hyggligt med 0-100 på "8 och något".
Den praktiskt användbara accelerationen däremot är ju bättre på en scooter än den på pappret, tycker jag. Det är ju ett litet "slir" i utväxlingen i starten innan man kommit upp i rätt varv = försämrar siffran. Och väl på rull så har man ju alltid s a s rätt växel i...

[GP800]

Kan verifiera att en GP 800 gör 0-200 på 9,6 sek enligt kalibrerad GPS låda jag normalt använder till dragrace körande.  Så den är hyfsat potent för att vara en scooter 

[ljs-s]

0-200 på 9.6 sekunder? orginal?
Enligt länken nedan så är det snabbare än en Lamborgini Gallardo som klarar det på 13.6.
Då borde ju Gp800 i youtube klippet slagit lambon rätt hårt hela vägen, men det gör den inte i det klippet.
http://www.autobild.de/artikel/test-lamborghini-gallardo-se-54098.html

[GP800]

Original, men med 2 liter ("kg") i tanken (full 18 liter "kg") samt rätt tryck i däck samt lite små fixande under testandet så gick det riktigt fort för och vara en scooter. (GPn gör 0-100 5,3s)

Har dock kikat på ett NoZ system som är "bolt-on" som ger den 30 kusar till vid användning, kanske något för 2012, skall bara kolla upp vad besiktningen kan ha för invändningar mot en sådan konvertering.

Ang. Youtube ser det inte ut som de visade mer än 0-100 något i det klippet, då tar samtliga modeller av Gallardo GPn lätt.  Men om man kikar på 0-200 så börjar det hända saker då en bil är tyngre samt har mer massa att flytta i högre hastighet. Gallardon är ca 1s snabbare än GPn från 0-100 medan LP 570-4 Superleggeran är i samma klass som GPn 0-200.

Nedan har du lite fakta om de olika Gallardo som finns:

Coupe 2003-2005
0-100 4,2s 0-200 14,0s Top 309 km/h

SE (2005)
0-100 4,0s 0-200 13,6s Top 314 km/h

Spyder 2006-2008
0-100 4,3s 0-200 14,3s Top 314 km/h

Nera (2007), Coupe 2006-2008
0-100 4,0s 0-200 13,6s Top 314 km/h

Superleggera (2007–2008)
0-100 3,8s 0-200 12,4s Top 315 km/h

LP 560-4
0-100 3,2s 0-200 11,8s Top 325 km/h

LP 560-4 Spyder
0-100 4,0s 0-200 13,1s Top 324 km/h

LP 550-2 Valentino Balboni rear wheel drive
0-100 3,9s 0-200 ?s Top 320 km/h

LP 570-4 Superleggera
0-100 3,4s 0-200 10,2s Top 325 km/h

[GP800]

BMW Maxi Scooter 2012

After announcing the latest electric car and BMW hybrid car identity that would be produced, BMW I3 and I8, it seems BMW still has another obsession for two wheeled automotive market.

Yes, BMW Motorrad, will launch two brand-new scooter variants in Esposizione Internazionale Ciclo e Motociclo e Accessori or Milan International Motorcycle Show (EICMA) 2011, November, Maxi scooter.

BMW Maxi scooter is different from other general scooter that has fat body. This brand new BMW scooter is loaded with more streamlined and sporty impression.

BMW Maxi scooter will be using two cylinder engines, while the display is using the split concept and completed with front windscreen and Light Emitting Diode (LED) for the main light.

BMW Maxi scooter will be marketed in 2012.

[GP800]

2012 Ducati Maxi Scooter

The Italian company Ducati, is rumored to start developing a Maxi scooter, who are already in the near future will be presented to the public.

According to the source, the Ducati is now considering all the segments of two-wheeled market, and choosing the most promising areas as selling superbike and other motor cycles has become increasingly difficult, the buyer is looking for a small scooter for the urban environment, where powerful motorcycles do not feel entirely comfortable.
 
It also said that the Ducati does not preclude the use of electric Maxi, but nothing definite about the power plants do not say.
 
We recall that not so long ago, BMW and Honda have also expressed a desire to engage seriously in the Maxi scooter market.

[GP800]

Honda's new 2011/2012 maxi scoot and adventure tourer

looks like Honda has bee super busy redesigning its line-up... two new bikes due out in 2011/2012 a super scoot and a 1200cc adventure tourer based on the new VFR 1200 cc engine... supposed to replace the Varadero

the scoot is chain driven, quite interesting .... the scooter is inheriting some of the dual mode/automatic technology from their new 1200cc VFR design.



no details as to final displacement or configuration, but it looks so yummmiiiieeeee, I just hate handlebar mounted mirrors on a street bike.

the super scoot looks very cool and should become a production model, as does the adventure tourer

Honda DN-01





Honda Griffon

[tomas]

Undrar vilken motorstorlek det blir på BMW'n
Kollade lite och såg att dom även om det stämmer kommer med el varianter.

Några länkar jag hittade med fler bilder,
http://www.mbike.com/bmw/concept-c/2011/photos?page=1
http://www.flickr.com/photos/87673235@N00/5915119534#
http://www.flickr.com/photos/42435071@N02/sets/72157626972937881/with/5893767528/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/87673235@N00/5915119534#
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22689450@N07/5057194429#


-Tomas

[ljs-s]

Original, men med 2 liter ("kg") i tanken (full 18 liter "kg") samt rätt tryck i däck samt lite små fixande under testandet så gick det riktigt fort för och vara en scooter. (GPn gör 0-100 5,3s)

Ang. Youtube ser det inte ut som de visade mer än 0-100 något i det klippet, då tar samtliga modeller av Gallardo GPn lätt.  Men om man kikar på 0-200 så börjar det hända saker då en bil är tyngre samt har mer massa att flytta i högre hastighet. Gallardon är ca 1s snabbare än GPn från 0-100 medan LP 570-4 Superleggeran är i samma klass som GPn 0-200.

Isåfall går GP800 bättre än en BMW R 1200 GS (2008) på 103 hästar, och gp800 slår den dessutom med över 6 sekunder 0-200 tiden.
0 - 200 kph: 16.0 s
http://gsri.info/forum/board1-technical-area/board75-miscellaneous-gs-related/board77-the-gs-through-the-model-years/225-useful-measurements-and-data/
Vilket är otroligt bra med tanke på att den har cirkus 25% mindre effekt och ungefär samma vikt.

Youtube klippet körde 402 meter om man kollar på den längre versionen, om jag inte är helt ute o cyklar. Vilket förargligt nog kan hända nu och då

Kul info om kommande scootrarna
Hoppas det börjar händer lite grejer med de kommande stor scootrarna så det inte bara stannar vid concept.

[GP800]

Kollade runt lite på dina länkar... En R 1200 GS/Adventure har troligt annan utväxling så svårt att jämföra med en scooter.
0-100 på 3,6s (GPn 5,3s) 0-140 på 5,9s samt 0-200 på 16,0s (troligtvis hög utväxling på 6:e växeln)

Är som att gemföra en ferrari med en traktor  


PS. vi bör nog hålla oss till scooters så vi ej blir bandlysta  

[ljs-s]

Bild på nya ducati scootern:

Ser ut att ha en bit kvar till produktion.
Lastutrymmet ser inte strålande stort ut

[ljs-s]

Synd

Ducati CEO Gabriele Del Torchio came out then stating that Ducati is “concentrating on the next project for the sports market…We have no maxi-scooter in mind.”

http://ducatiblog.net/general/125-ducati-ceo-denies-maxi-scooter

[GP800]

Har hört ryckten att de har en scooter på gång som bygger på gileras gp chassi..   så vem vet  

[GP800]

Jag hittade lite intressanta bilder på BMWs E-Scooter så tänkte att jag får dela med mig lite...

BMW E-Scooter

BMW Concept e Maxi-Scooter

Individual mobility is increasingly defined in terms of sustainability. The BMW Group has taken on the challenges of a rapidly changing world and is now developing serial production solutions to meet the mobility needs of the future.

As an integrated part of the BMW Group, BMW Motorrad is also addressing issues of individual single-track mobility and future customer needs. In this connection, BMW Motorrad is expanding its business activities to include a new facet: that of "Urban Mobility."
 
Building on almost 90 years of experienced in the field of motorised two-wheel vehicles, BMW Motorrad is drawing on the conceptual benefits of single-track vehicles to develop innovative solutions, adding a new dimension to the area of urban commuting.
 
Before the end of this year, BMW Motorrad will establish its new "Urban Mobility" area with two premium vehicles in the maxi scooter segment. The BMW maxi scooters combine the functionality of a scooter with the riding pleasure of a motorcycle. Both vehicles are powered by high-performance and efficient 2-cylinder combustion engines.
 
Based on the BMW Group's sustainability strategy, BMW Motorrad aims to put a premium offer on the market in the area of electromobility in the foreseeable future. At the Frankfurt International Motor Show (IAA), BMW will be presenting its design concept in this area for the first time: "BMW Concept e".
 
Visionary design for a new drive concept
 
The design study BMW Concept e embodies the vision of an electrically powered scooter made by BMW Motorrad. Increasing limitations in traffic space, growing traffic density as well as both ecological and economical challenges give rise to new demands in the area of private transport in the major conurbation areas in particular.

An e-scooter with sustainable technological solutions and the aesthetic design of the Concept e provides a response to these changing urban mobility needs.
 
At the IAA in Frankfurt, BMW i presents visionary vehicles which are individually tailored to their respective purpose - the BMW i3 Concept and the BMW i8 Concept.

They have a completely new "LifeDrive Architecture" specially developed for electrical drive and radically different from conventional vehicle construction. With its fascinating overall concept, the BMW i8 Concept with plug-in hybrid drive is the vision of a sustainable sports car come true. The BMW i3 Concept is the automobile with consistently sustainable design, conceived specifically for an urban setting.
 
With its Concept e, BMW Motorrad shows how attractive and fascinating the interpretation of the theme of electrical drive on two wheels can be in terms of design, while at the same time attracting attention to its new business area "Urban Mobility".
 
Concept e - a vision with a future
 
The Concept e is a vision: BMW Motorrad designers have developed the style and shaping of the e-scooter of the future - electric, digital, dynamic. The designers deliberately allowed themselves plenty of freedom so as to be able to strike out new, creative paths in the design of components and surfaces.
 
The shaping and precision achieved reflect the core values of BMW Motorrad: emotion, dynamic performance and innovation. At the same time, the purist, clear design, coloring and choice of materials instantly suggest a clean, efficient yet agile single-track vehicle which allows one to move effortlessly through city traffic.
 
So the design concept study Concept e is more than just an idea for a new vehicle. In addition to technical functionality and quality, the BMW Motorrad designers attach importance to an emotional dialogue between rider and vehicle. Their basic premise is that a vehicle has to do more than just function - it has to arouse the rider's emotions, too. It has to inspire the rider again and again, as well as reflect its specific technological features.
 
So in the case of the Concept e, the main aim was to translate the special character of electric drive technology to the vehicle's outward appearance.
 
The Concept e is the conceptual blueprint of a scooter able to set new standards with innovative premium electrical drive and provide a sound alternative form of mobility suitable for everyday use in the dense traffic of the constantly expanding conurbation areas and cities of the world today.
 
Hallmark BMW Motorrad design elements
 
The BMW Concept e is clearly identifiable as a member of the BMW Motorrad family. As in other BMW motorcycles, the so-called split face runs from the upper trim section to above the front wheel cover, giving the Concept e an unmistakable, dynamic front view.
 
The successful BMW Motorrad design style is also reflected in the styling of the twin-tipped spoiler in the floating panel of the front trim, a boomerang-shaped, aerodynamically formed floating panel. The short, sporty rear highlights the active riding character of the electrically powered scooter, giving it a visual sense of dynamic performance which is underscored by the low cut windshield.
 
Color and material concept blends in with overall concept
 
The dynamic performance, fascination and especially the environmental compatibility of electrical mobility is reflected in the color and material concept. The front and rear side trim sections finished in "Light white" generate a fascinating contrast with components such as the upper trim section in "Black chrome light" and side sills coated in "Black chrome dark", thereby emphasising the scooter's technological features.

The vehicle's overall impression of high quality is borne out by finely cut details in "Natural aluminu,m, the asymmetrically designed, solid-milled holder for the front trim section and the central tunnel in "Textured steel." The design of the light alloy wheels is derived from the styling of the BMW i automobiles.
 
Made from acrylic glass and featuring a rear-set metal grid and "Concept e" lettering, the two side covers of the battery and drive unit in "Electric yellow" symbolize the technical character of an electrically powered scooter. In combination with other accentuation in "Electric yellow" such as the front trim section, the rear section and the hollow-bore wheel axle, these stand for the vehicle's specific properties of maximum environmental compatibility, supreme dynamic performance and easy handling. To match this, the charging socket is positioned in the front section of the central tunnel and features a transparent plastic cover.
 
The Concept e highlights its visionary character by dispensing with conventional rear mirrors. Instead there are two video cameras integrated in the glass of the rear light cluster which clearly displays the situation on the road behind the rider on two LCD monitors installed in the cockpit. Speed and other relevant data is shown on a digital display in the cockpit which is reduced to the essentials.
 
Innovative technology in a future serial production vehicle
 
The later serial production vehicle will fully meet customer expectations of a single-track vehicle offering sustainable mobility. The special arrangement of all drive components and the design of the vehicle's geometry will allow agile handling typical of a scooter as well as a high degree of functionality.
 
For the power electronics and battery technology, BMW Motorrad draws on the innovative e-technology and extensive expertise of the BMW Group.
 
BMW i high voltage technology (> 60 volts) with the very highest safety standards enables electrically powered vehicles to equal the acceleration rates of a maxi scooter with combustion engine. The generous storage capacity of the battery, an intelligent battery management system and efficient brake energy recuperation ensure a realistic range of 100 kilometres for everyday use. What is more, BMW Motorrad developers are aiming to achieve a continuous output and maximum speed which will enable safe overtaking on urban motorways when carrying a passenger.
 
The battery is charged at regular household power sockets as found in Europe, the USA, Canada and Japan, There is no need for a special charging station. When the battery is completely flat, the charging period is less than three hours. Practical experience with concept vehicles has already shown that the battery rarely runs out completely, so charging times are generally shorter.
 
In this way, the future serial production vehicle will provide a long-term, zero-emissions city travel option which is suitable for everyday use.

[GP800]

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